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	<title>Comments on: My Barack Obama Website&#8217;s Fly is Open</title>
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		<title>By: Thanos</title>
		<link>http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2008/06/09/my-barack-obama-websites-fly-is-open/comment-page-1/#comment-7084</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are differences between &quot;Smear&quot; and facts Chen. The egregious smears against Obama have all originated at Dem sites or Dem media (that sleaze Larry Johnson, ABC News, The Hillary campaign with those &quot;Barack is a crypto-muslim&quot; email chain letters etc.)
It&#039;s a fact that all those posts were on his site. It&#039;s a fact that if you are vague, people will see what they want to see in you. (Virginia Postrel agrees here btw: http://www.dynamist.com/weblog/archives/002806.html )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress'><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/030f418d0633f044ae4b1cb55b09d836?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></a></span>There are differences between &#8220;Smear&#8221; and facts Chen. The egregious smears against Obama have all originated at Dem sites or Dem media (that sleaze Larry Johnson, ABC News, The Hillary campaign with those &#8220;Barack is a crypto-muslim&#8221; email chain letters etc.)<br />
It&#8217;s a fact that all those posts were on his site. It&#8217;s a fact that if you are vague, people will see what they want to see in you. (Virginia Postrel agrees here btw: <a href="http://www.dynamist.com/weblog/archives/002806.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dynamist.com/weblog/archives/002806.html</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
		<link>http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2008/06/09/my-barack-obama-websites-fly-is-open/comment-page-1/#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, like you&#039;re addressing Obama&#039;s policies with this post.

And he never claimed it was a smear (as far as I&#039;ve seen); I&#039;m only saying that this is you guys&#039; intention.  There are legitimate smears against Obama out there, and I&#039;m not sure if I buy into this &quot;victim cloak&quot; rationale, since he would probably take even more heat as being &quot;weak&quot; for failing to debunk or attack them, or in the very least it would hint that they were true.  I mean, go ahead and start any ridiculous rumor like that he wears women&#039;s panties, and he&#039;ll have to address that if it gains enough steam.  Victim cloak?  I think you&#039;re a little optimistic about that meme sticking.

Anyway, I got some laughs when I read the post over at Newsbusters where they were scratching their heads at why the media won&#039;t pick this up, never occurring to them that it&#039;s probably because it&#039;s ultimately stupid and meaningless.  

There are plenty of people out there that give Obama props for having the stones to give anyone and everyone a voice on his website.  Is it wise, in light of the presence of our favorite cyber dumpster divers?  Perhaps, perhaps not.  It could be that the cons outweigh the pros (pun intended).  To be honest, I&#039;m leaning that way myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://chenzhen.wordpress.com'><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f8f9d48b0db1bf924e7cf2afb2568464?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></a></span>Yea, like you&#8217;re addressing Obama&#8217;s policies with this post.</p>
<p>And he never claimed it was a smear (as far as I&#8217;ve seen); I&#8217;m only saying that this is you guys&#8217; intention.  There are legitimate smears against Obama out there, and I&#8217;m not sure if I buy into this &#8220;victim cloak&#8221; rationale, since he would probably take even more heat as being &#8220;weak&#8221; for failing to debunk or attack them, or in the very least it would hint that they were true.  I mean, go ahead and start any ridiculous rumor like that he wears women&#8217;s panties, and he&#8217;ll have to address that if it gains enough steam.  Victim cloak?  I think you&#8217;re a little optimistic about that meme sticking.</p>
<p>Anyway, I got some laughs when I read the post over at Newsbusters where they were scratching their heads at why the media won&#8217;t pick this up, never occurring to them that it&#8217;s probably because it&#8217;s ultimately stupid and meaningless.  </p>
<p>There are plenty of people out there that give Obama props for having the stones to give anyone and everyone a voice on his website.  Is it wise, in light of the presence of our favorite cyber dumpster divers?  Perhaps, perhaps not.  It could be that the cons outweigh the pros (pun intended).  To be honest, I&#8217;m leaning that way myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Thanos</title>
		<link>http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2008/06/09/my-barack-obama-websites-fly-is-open/comment-page-1/#comment-7082</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smear, Obama&#039;s favorite word since he has no policy worthy of mention. He&#039;s got to keep the focus somewhere I suppose, and wearing the continual victim cloak will not get him elected, only despised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress'><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/030f418d0633f044ae4b1cb55b09d836?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></a></span>Smear, Obama&#8217;s favorite word since he has no policy worthy of mention. He&#8217;s got to keep the focus somewhere I suppose, and wearing the continual victim cloak will not get him elected, only despised.</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the paradox is, the reason it&#039;s unwise is that there are bloggers like CJ, Malkin and yourself who would make the actual postings into a big deal, and when you finally figure out that the place is basically a free-for-all, turn around and question why someone would give you the opportunity to use it as a smear.

Kinda like a guy who steals a bike out of a neighbors garage, then the next day tells his buds that the neighbor was a dumbass for leaving his door open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://chenzhen.wordpress.com'><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f8f9d48b0db1bf924e7cf2afb2568464?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></a></span>I suppose the paradox is, the reason it&#8217;s unwise is that there are bloggers like CJ, Malkin and yourself who would make the actual postings into a big deal, and when you finally figure out that the place is basically a free-for-all, turn around and question why someone would give you the opportunity to use it as a smear.</p>
<p>Kinda like a guy who steals a bike out of a neighbors garage, then the next day tells his buds that the neighbor was a dumbass for leaving his door open.</p>
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		<title>By: Thanos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what I said it does Chen, that it&#039;s unwise to have unmoderated presidential community sites, and that Barrack Obama is attracting his share of loons by his vagaries just as Ron Paul did. Is that so hard to fathom?

Since BO is ultimately responsible for what his campaign does, as was Ron Paul, it&#039;s the Democrat Nominee who is being unwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress'><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/030f418d0633f044ae4b1cb55b09d836?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></a></span>Exactly what I said it does Chen, that it&#8217;s unwise to have unmoderated presidential community sites, and that Barrack Obama is attracting his share of loons by his vagaries just as Ron Paul did. Is that so hard to fathom?</p>
<p>Since BO is ultimately responsible for what his campaign does, as was Ron Paul, it&#8217;s the Democrat Nominee who is being unwise.</p>
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		<title>By: zzzzzzzzzzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzzzzzzzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a troll for a trolls....how pitiful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/839929f9c9f48fa1f17ecdaf28f44348?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></span>a troll for a trolls&#8230;.how pitiful</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
		<link>http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2008/06/09/my-barack-obama-websites-fly-is-open/comment-page-1/#comment-7075</link>
		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you suppose all this proves Thanos?

BTW, you might have noticed that what you&#039;re painstakingly sifting through here is akin to scribbles on the bathroom stall, as I hinted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:10px; display:block; width:64px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://chenzhen.wordpress.com'><img alt='' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f8f9d48b0db1bf924e7cf2afb2568464?s=64&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D64&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-64 photo' height='64' width='64' /></a></span>What do you suppose all this proves Thanos?</p>
<p>BTW, you might have noticed that what you&#8217;re painstakingly sifting through here is akin to scribbles on the bathroom stall, as I hinted.</p>
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