Comments on: The F-word, or Why I Won’t Vote for McCain

By: Thanos

Thanos — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:16:08 +0000

Sorry for the short reply, but we had one of those “get to cover, possible tornado” warning things earlier, and then it was dinner time. Great rainbow afterwards however.
You said: “Who said anything about fighting for the other side, wacko?”

I was illustrating a point, you saying “why don’t republicans go over and fight” is as sillly as me saying what I said, it’s a non argument.

Let’s forget the terrorist aspect for just a moment then since that makes liberals froth at the mouth in denial.

Just looking at reality if we pull out what will happen?
1. Humanitarian crisis of enormous proportions, and refugee camps filled with starving mothers and children.
2. Turkey will probably invade Kurdish regions, who will want to break away.
3. The violence we are seeing now will go from car bombs to total genocide as various factions all jump into the fray to get their turf, or protect their turf (It’s a hell of a lot more complex than the simplistic Sunni-Shia-Kurd perspective the media presents, they don’t show the half of the factionalism in Iraq — there are numerous tribes, and every neighbor on Iraq’s borders is aligned with elements from some of them.)
4. The refugee camps would spawn the next generation of displaced terrorist thugs. (Remember that the birth of most of this was from Afghan refugees who fled the Soviets into Pakistan.)

So no “they will follow us” argument, just stark geopolitical reality — you sound willing to support the deaths of tens of thousands at minimum to achieve your “PEACE” objective. Isn’t that strange?

By: Thanos

Thanos — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:19:39 +0000

Numerous reasons. Does it matter now?

By: Dennis

Dennis — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:34:41 +0000

Sorry for the shorty second post thing again, bur pewrhaps you could tell me – Why did we attack Iraq?

By: Dennis

Dennis — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:21:36 +0000

Who said anything about fighting for the other side, wacko? I’m not over there because I knew from the start this was pure horseshit, and I’m not putting my ass on the line for horseshit. The argument is, which I thought was apparent in the first post was this: Stop with the ad-hominem attacks, like sending white feathers, and actually do something! Furthermore, your characteriztion is false. The bill calls for the redeployment of troops, not removal. So, our troops are out of the way, which is what 79% or Iraqi’s want, and 70% of the American people want. The “terrorists”, aka the Iraqi’s, in some opinions, then “wait us out”, right? Well, sounds like our boys won’t be dying as much, that sounds good to me. And hey, maybe the Iraqi govt. could actually get it’s feet beneath it and do something for their people. And don’t spew me the horsepucky about fight them there blah blah blah. Heard that one during ‘Nam, didn’t buy it then, and it NEVER happened, did it?
Why aren’t you over there?

By: Thanos

Thanos — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:13:18 +0000

Whether you like the reason for getting into the war or not, we are there now, and the Iraqi’s deserve our help. If you want to fight for the other side why don’t you go put on a white head band and jihadi vest Dennis? Why aren’t you over there?
You see how silly ad-hominem debate is? “I know you are but what am I? is the level it always sinks to, so if you have a legitimate argument state the argument, not the angst.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:29:20 +0000

It sound like we really need Operation Yellow Elephant sending white feathers to all the young Republicans supporting the war but staying home for other priorities.

Why hasn’t Malkin enlisted? Maybe she should be sent a white feather. She’s of age. And if this war is the be all end all for this nation why the hell haven’t we instituted the draft and kick the poop out of this thing RIGHT NOW!! Not over the next 10 years and how many more thousands dead.

[Editor's note: Collapsing Dennis' two comments into one, second comment follows.]

Dennis said,

April 27, 2007 at 12:31 pm

Oh, and by the way – this war has ALWAYS been about politics from the get go

By: Debbie

Debbie — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:03:01 +0000

I’m fed up with McCain and Rudy, Fred Thompson is my man. He hasn’t even decided to run yet or start collecting money and he is in third place in the polls.

By: Thanos

Thanos — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:38:26 +0000

Some trackbacks aren’t worthy.

By: An islamic extremist

An islamic extremist — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:15:35 +0000

[Edited out because some trackbacks aren't worth it.]