Comments on: The Last Bloody Century http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2006/04/29/the-last-bloody-century/ Shadows stand tall at the dusk and the dawn of the day Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:26:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Thanos http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2006/04/29/the-last-bloody-century/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Thanos Wed, 10 May 2006 01:17:01 +0000 http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/?p=54#comment-34 <p>Thanks for the comment Ann, the numbers used come from an old chart from a scholar named RJ Rummel in Hawaii, his site is here: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/</p> One more consideration -- these are not deaths from war. These are deaths by policy, initiative, pogram, program, march, genocide, forced labor, and torture. <p>The chart I used is old and he has indeed since revised the numbers, you might want to pay it a visit.</p>

Thanks for the comment Ann, the numbers used come from an old chart from a scholar named RJ Rummel in Hawaii, his site is here: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/

One more consideration — these are not deaths from war. These are deaths by policy, initiative, pogram, program, march, genocide, forced labor, and torture.

The chart I used is old and he has indeed since revised the numbers, you might want to pay it a visit.

]]> By: Ann Becket http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2006/04/29/the-last-bloody-century/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Ann Becket Tue, 09 May 2006 20:58:24 +0000 http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/?p=54#comment-33 I have just finished reading the autobiography of Mao by Jiang Jung and question the number of deaths you have attributed to the Chinese communists. I think you have vastly underestimated them. Also, I would argue that the deaths at the hands of Chiang Kai Shek should in many cases be placed in the communist column. Chiang was fighting the communist takeover of China and many of those killed were communists. It would be like saying we are responsible for X number of Japanese deaths during WWII when we were attacked and provoked into war. Those Japanese deaths should rightly be placed at the feet of the Japanese themselves and I would argue the same goes for the Chinese communists. If Chiang hadn't had to battle the communists (funded by the USSR)many deaths would arguably have been occurred. Of course, you only cites actual deaths and not the millions and millions of lives consigned to misery and torture under these regimes--I think you should take into account the blood splattered survivors of these regimes. Nevertheless, you are absolutely correct--the 20th Century, thanks to Marxism and Socialism is the bloodiest, cruelest century. Let's hope it is the last. I have just finished reading the autobiography of Mao by Jiang Jung and question the number of deaths you have attributed to the Chinese communists. I think you have vastly underestimated them. Also, I would argue that the deaths at the hands of Chiang Kai Shek should in many cases be placed in the communist column. Chiang was fighting the communist takeover of China and many of those killed were communists. It would be like saying we are responsible for X number of Japanese deaths during WWII when we were attacked and provoked into war. Those Japanese deaths should rightly be placed at the feet of the Japanese themselves and I would argue the same goes for the Chinese communists. If Chiang hadn’t had to battle the communists (funded by the USSR)many deaths would arguably have been occurred.
Of course, you only cites actual deaths and not the millions and millions of lives consigned to misery and torture under these regimes–I think you should take into account the blood splattered survivors of these regimes. Nevertheless, you are absolutely correct–the 20th Century, thanks to Marxism and Socialism is the bloodiest, cruelest century. Let’s hope it is the last.

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